bah ça n'a rien à voir avec du metal. Et ça ne m'étonne qu'à moitié qu'il compose ce genre de trucs. Ces derniers mois c'est ce genre qu'il écoutait sur son myspace.

Bon finalement Frontiers ne sortira pas le disque et ça a l'air d'être le merdier, pour changer avec Gros Timo, les mecs de Frontiers ont du écouté le disque

"I would like to inform you about the following things regarding Saana. Due to the fact that Frontiers Records hasn't fullfilled its contractual obligations regarding Saana, I have terminated the contract between my production company Goldenworks and them. Regardless of that, they have notified me by email today that they are going to release Saana anyway without my permission even though they don't have the material to be able to produce the CD at all. They only have MP3 files which are not adequate to produce a high quality CD. Also, they have absolutely no graphic material for the booklet, information regarding the songs or even the lyrics.
I would like to remind you that the ONLY OFFICIAL place where you can buy Saana is www.theground.com. As soon as their new layout is ready, you will be able to make pre-orders of Saana from that site. They deliver to the whole world fast and reliably.
I would like to ask you to boycott the possible Frontiers release of Saana because it is not the official version of the record and its quality is likely to be extremely poor.
Thank you for your wonderful support, especially in the last few days."
Timo

Ca laisse tellement présager un désastre que ça fait presque envie.

Oui je sens le truc énorme se pointer, j'ai presque envie de l'écouter ce disque à présent tellement ça parait invraisemblable

C'est cool, quand Timo sort un disque, on s'ennuie rarement (enfin tant qu'on l'a pas écouté, le disque).
C'est vrai que ça donne presque envie de s'intérésser !

Moi, je pense que je vais boycotté le disque carrément!

On continue? allez je sais que vous aimez ça

STRATOVARIUS mainman Timo Tolkki has issued the following update in his ongoing dispute with Italy's Frontiers Records over the fate of his recently completed classical rock opera, "Saana - Warrior of Light Part 1: Journey to Crystal Island":

"Due to the unfortunate events around 'Saana' during the last days have made me to issue a more clarifying statement regarding this.

"To start with, I have put five legal documents to www.timotolkki.com for those who are interested to see how things really are legally. You might have to press 'refresh' to see the new content.

"I signed the contract with Frontiers in good faith. I had and have a very strong belief that 'Saana' is the most important work that I have ever done. I went into the composing process with free hands, like I always do. I cannot write music if somebody is trying to impose restrictions to it. This is what has happened all the time during the last four months. It has been one constant fight about everything possible from graphic designs to the music. It is very difficult to work under those kind of circumstances and I have always had the principle that nobody tells me what to do regarding my art. Now I believe that this principle has been under constant and systematic attack from Frontiers Records.

"Those who are interested can read my arguments for terminating the contract with Frontiers from www.timotolkki.com, but I sum them up here:

"Frontiers REJECTED the production master that I sent them and sent them back to me. This is exactly the same record that they are now 'proudly presenting' and selling on their homepage. They tried to get me to go back to the studio to write more 'metal songs' and to quote them 'just insert them in between somewhere there.' Needless to say, after 2500 hours of work and a clear concept of two-album storyline, including a filmed format, doesn't allow anything like that and neither would I do it because for me, freedom of expression in art is a necessity to be even able to create any music plus that both parts of 'Saana' represent a whole and a concept that is evolving up until the 'Finale' in part 2.

"Frontiers presents in their letters things like the music is not what I 'promised' them. I cannot 'promise' any music, I am not a jukebox. The music style in the contract is detrmined as 'rock opera.' I first wrote the story and then the music around it. I have never written music for anyone else but myself. I appreciate and honor the support of my fans greatly, but at the end of the day, I am expressing myself through my music, not through Frontiers Records.

"They go on stating that the album has 'drum loops' and drum machines, which they don't tolerate. The album has real live drums played by Mirka Rantanen of THUNDERSTONE. It hasn't got any drum machines and it has one loop that lasts 20 seconds.

"My production company, Goldenworks, is responisble for producing the sound production master (you manufacture CDs from this) and graphic master (you manufacture the booklet, cd design from this). I have since last October numerous times asked Frontiers to deliver me the cataloque number of 'Saana' and a barcode, which are both necessary elements for any record store to take the CD for sale. Frontiers have insisited that it is them who is doing it, not Goldenworks. Contractually, I pay for the graphic master and am therefore resposible to produce the graphic master. But I haven't been able to do so because of above-mentioned facts. I also suspected that they would alter the artwork because I sent an early version of the cover to the director of Frontiers, who freaked out and said it's horrible. He also SENT the jpeg to some people, including some journalists, which was an insane thing to do at that point of production.

"They claim that the album should not contain any instrumental music and that the album is 'mostly instrumental music.' Keeping in mind the storytelling nature of a rock opera or musical, I challenge you to find a piece that doesn't have instrumentals. Out of 16 tracks, 11 tracks contain vocals.

"Frontiers continues by stating that the album should be 45 minutes long, according to the contract. The album is 44:10 long. This doesn't really need any comment…

"Frontiers claims that I delivered the master late. This is true, but I notfied them about this already in August 2007 and they approved it and were systematically preparing for a May 2008 release. I can prove this by email traffic.

"Frontiers also claims I was unavailable for discussions for compromise. This is also not true. After some email exchanging they proposed a settlement compromise, which I gave to my lawyer to check. Frontiers was hurriying me and my lawyer to sign this document to the point that my lawyer became very irritated and said to me that I should always be very careful with any company that is hurrying you to sign. After reviewing what my lawyer said, I terminated the contract by his recommendation.

"Despite of this, Frontiers Records seems to be releasing 'Saana' according to their website. I know most of their distributors personally and none of them has this album in their release schedule.

"Frontiers Records hasn't got the necessary parts to be able to produce a CD in the way that it is of high quality. Yet, they seem to intend to manufacture CDs out of MP3 files and booklet from two low-resolution jpegs they have. They don't have lyrics or any information regarding the album details.

"I have designed 'Saana''s 24 page booklet in the way that each page has its own graphic layout and is very necessary for understanding the unfolding story. Only the booklet took one month to make.

"We shot 25 hours of footage for the bonus DVD videos and the sales DVD story.

"Therefore it is really sad to see that they are doing this and I think it says a lot about this company what it is willing to do.

"There is a touch of irony in first rejecting the master because of the things I have explained and then when I terminate the contract, instead of taking Goldenworks to court, what do they do? They 'proudly present' the new rock opera from Timo Tolkki.

"Needless to say, Goldenworks will take legal actions against Frontiers Records if they will release the 'Saana' album. I doubt they are able to do that, at least via their normal distribution channels. Maybe only through their online shop, but the quality of that product will be less than adequate. The 'cover' they have sent to some media is an early version of the final cover.

"I rest my case. I have spent one year of my life working this music and I believe it is a truly unique and innovative concept. I never wanted any of this fuss, but I will defend my art against a corporate attack if I have to and I am not afraid to stand in court and say what I have to say about my artistic right to express myself."

Il est très bon le Grotimo. Il me fait rire. Cela dit chez Frontiers ce sont peut être des enflures.
On verra la zik mais je suis pas convaincu par les 3 titres.

Bah, chez Frontiers au départ ils font du FM, on peut pas dire que ça soit la meilleure enseigne pour pouvoir exprimer sa folie creative

En même temps ils savaient bien qu'il ferait pas du FM le Grotimo. Enfin Frontiers ils se sont élargis ces dernières années (ils ont signé Primal Fear par exemple).

Ils ont élargi leurs frontières ?

Allez on continue :

STRATOVARIUS mainman Timo Tolkki has issued the following update on the fate of his recently completed classical rock opera, "Saana - Warrior of Light Part 1: Journey to Crystal Island":

"First of all, a humble thank you for all you who have sent me so many wonderful messages showing their love and support.

"We are slowly getting things together, so things are moving here. Next week we will be able to finally publish the trailer and open the web shop, where you can order 'Saana' online.

"I finally decided to go the 'RADIOHEAD' route and the GroundCom guys are encoding the webshop to my official website, www.timotolkki.com. So that will finally be the address where you can get the official album. All the logistics are handled by the GroundCom company like shipping etc.

"I am really excited about the way that I can finally have my own webshop at my own site and interact directly with my fans. So pay attention to timotolkki.com and 'Saana' website during next week and you will see something very nice."

Tolkki wrote, mixed, produced and played all instruments (except drums, which were handled by Mirka Rantanen).

Ca y est, tout est réglé, c'est-y pas mignon.


Frontiers Records and Timo Tolkki are very pleased to announce to have finally reached an amicable settlement over the “Saana – Warrior of Light pt. 1” album controversy.

Both parties agreed that the rights of the release will go back to Timo Tolkki who will release the album (digital and physical release) on his website www.saana-warrioroflight.com while Frontiers will be paid back the money invested against the production of the record.

GroTimo : “I am very pleased that Frontiers and me have been able to come to an agreement in the end about the Saana release. We were able to come up with a mutually satisfactory compromise and we are looking forward soon to give you some news regarding my future”.

Mario de Riso, grand gourou de Frontiers : “Timo is a very special person and Artist. We have a lot of respect for his talent. Of course his words went sometimes a little too far in this story, but the good thing is that we feel now much better and I can already say that we look forward to working together on new ventures".

Based on the above, Frontiers Records officially deletes the worldwide release of the album “Saana – Warrior of Light pt.1” from its catalogue (originally scheduled for March 14th) with immediate effect. The record shall exclusively be available in digital and physical purchase on March 10th at the www.saana-warrioroflight.com and www.timotolkki.com websites.


Vous pouvez donc vous offrir ce sublime opéra-rock conceptuel super-novateur avec plein de psychologie et de philosophie dedans via le site de GroTimo.

Ouais, ben le seul interet de cet album, c'est de citer un nom sans avoir à réfléchir quand on se demandera quel est le plus mauvais album de l'année.
Sinon écoutez-le, c'est poilant.

A ce point là?

Ouais.
y'a deux types de morceaux dans cet album: Les morceaux instrumentaux, où c'est presque juste une violonade nian nian au possible, et les morceau chantés, avec une chanteuse et un chanteur tous les deux aussi insupportables, et bien sur ces morceaux sont des ballades soporifiques au possible avec juste un piano et quelques arrengements de violons derrière.
Parfait pour s'endormir, quoi.

Mouais, cul-cul et chiant je suis d'accord, mais de là à dire que c'est poilant il y a de la marge.

Ce disque est une sombre merde.

Bon, on était prévenu depuis le départ, c'est pas du Métôle. On savait aussi que ce serait un poil "ambiant". OK.

Mais il faut se rendre à l'évidence : GroTimo n'est pas doué dans ce genre d'exercice. Son machin est à peu près aussi passionnant que les compils de relaxation de France Loisirs, les trucs du genre "Harmonie avec la Nature", "Evasion Nocturne" ou ce genre de connerie.

L'album se divise en 3:

-Les titres "BO de film". Pompeux et insupportables.
-Les titres "ambiants afin que ton âme de barbare s'évade vers des contrées lointaines". Comme dit plus haut, c'est du France Loisirs. C'est plat comme Jane Birkin et ça n'évoque rien. Plus crispant que relaxant.
-Les titres chantés. La chanteuse n'a pas une vilaine voix, mais y a rien qui passe. Zéro émotion. C'est pas Jennifer Sowle, c'est Jennifer Saoûle.
Et le chanteur... C'est le mec de TWILIGHTNING. Tout est dit.

C'est CA, le disque sur lequel Tolkki a passé un an de sa vie ? C'est à se demander ce qu'il a fait de son inspiration.
Ca fait quand même depuis 2003 qu'il n'écrit que des merdes. Il y a de quoi flipper pour le prochain STRATO.

Et j'suis pas d'accord avec Seo. C'est pas poilant. Mais alors pas du tout.

Entendre des trucs comme ça, ça me fait plus marrer qu'autre chose en fait. Un peu comme le dernier Manowar.