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Chipstouille
Long Distance Runner
Inscription: 20 Avr 2004 10:27 Messages: 3529 Localisation: Paris
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Apparament, ya pas mal de mecs qui ont pu l'écouter en entier  , j'ai une chro d'un fan, si ça vous intéresse...
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15 Mar 2005 19:47 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Why not ! 
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15 Mar 2005 20:44 |
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QueenOfTheReich
Heavy Metal Lawyer
Inscription: 21 Nov 2004 17:12 Messages: 1053 Localisation: A l'ombre des fraisiers en fleurs
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Je viens d'écouter le single de Jané...
eh bin. C'est du pur in absentia. J'adore... je le préfère à l'autre que j'avais écouté. Toujours aussi clair, triste, vague... L'album s'annonce bien.
Hâte de les retrouver à l'Elysée Montmartre. 
_________________ Lord, I am a bow in your hands. Overdraw me, and who cares if I break!
Nikos Kazantzakis
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15 Mar 2005 20:49 |
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Chipstouille
Long Distance Runner
Inscription: 20 Avr 2004 10:27 Messages: 3529 Localisation: Paris
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A ne pas lire donc, si vous ne voulez pas vous gacher la surprise de la découverte:
www.opeth.com a écrit: I've just finished listening to Deadwing twice on my Bose noise-cancelling headphones with the lights off... it's midnight here so I can't write too much. Suffice to say that my first impression is that this album is the best thing SW has ever done. Ever. Of any of his musical projects. Maybe that's just the initial euphoria and adrenaline speaking, but I'm thoroughly smitten with Deadwing. There's not a bad track on it.
A few more general observations before I comment on a few of the tracks individually: This album will settle the "Gavin vs. Chris" debate once and for all. Gavin Harrison must have the arms of a blacksmith to drum with this sort of intensity and virtuosity. His propulsive rhythms really unify the sound of the album and provide the backbone for a sound that is much heavier overall. Where In Absentia feels like an experimental foray into heavier territory, the granite-hard rock of Deadwing is far more integrated and organic on this record. The band seems far more comfortable with the new direction, and where In Absentia often seemed like it wasn't sure how to employ the talents of Richard Barbieri, Deadwing uses him as a pivotal player throughout. Crucially, the harder edge of this PT is never at the expense of melody...
Musicians often talk about how important it is to employ light and shade in an album but few practice this as well as SW. And never more so than on Deadwing. That's evident on the juxtaposition of different tracks on the lineup as well as within the arrangements of individual songs. The epic Arriving Somewhere But Not Here, for example, evokes memories of Russia on Ice for the way that wisps of mellow Barbieri keys eventually give way to guitar riffing so intense that it could cleave titanium. But the heavy riffing here is far more melodic (to my ear) than that of the Lightbulb Sun track.
I love the title track. It begins with a simple keyboard motif reminiscent of a certain song by The Who. Its followed by the background sound of a train station and then an amazing, jangly guitar riff kicks in alongside Gavin's frenetic drumming and lightning fast fills (you'll have heard this on the soundclips). Over 10 minutes this track keeps coming back to this guitar riff and unrelenting rhythm even as Steven sings of a ghost that disrupts someone's life (a deep voice intones "like a cancer scare in a dentist's chair..." to add to the ominous mood). There's a characteristic SW solo and, later, an unusual guitar solo -- haven't got liner notes on my promo copy but I'm guessing it's Adrian Belew.
Shallow features the guitar riff that launched a thousand guitarists. At least, it will once this gets extensive radio play... so damn catchy, this one...
Lazarus is the mellowest moment on the record. Lovely. Keane and Coldplay fans (of which I am both) will enjoy this, too.
Halo is a quirky delight. It starts off dark and murky with a cool groove by Colin and Gavin and pinging effects from Richard. SW offers a creepy, whispery vocal (God is on the cellphone/God is on the Net/God is in the warning/God is in the threat.) Then it gives way to the most unexpected chorus -- very poppy, sorta Blackfield-ish. I'm not sure if this is an apt description, but it sounds as if The Happy Mondays are singing the chorus. I'm enchanted by this one. Adrian Belew's off-kilter solo is another cool element to this one.
Arriving Somewhere But Not Here is epic in sweep and starts off with layers of ambient textures and a similar sort of guitar as used on the verses of Lips of Ashes. The track gathers momentum until it becomes a churning maelstrom. And then suddenly snaps and melts into another quiet passage with cool percussion and delicate guitar licks. SW said this track is 13 minutes but it's finishes somewhere around the 11 minute mark and fades out. The soundclips on the Deadwing micro site feature the chorus (it's at the point where the naked woman is swimming underwater) but with just vocals and no drums if I recall, so I wonder if that was cut from the final version?
Mellotron Scratch is one of the highlights of Deadwing. It's a blissed out track with a groovy, echoing percussion track and gorgeous layers of vocal harmonies (shades of How Is Your Life Today and it also brings YES to mind.)
Open Car -- this track bumped So-Called Friend. This one isn't exactly a rocker despite some cool riffing as it detours into mellower, piano-led moments. A hard track to pin down. Will require more listens.
The Start of Something Beautiful is another absolute highlight. This is how modern progressive rock should sound. Features a synth bassline to start and some great percussion from Gavin. I love the unexpected melodic detours this track takes and its use of mellotron and widescreen guitars during the chorus.
Glass Arm Shattering is, quite simply, gorgeous. It's one of those PT tracks that seems to soar effortlessly (think Dark Matter or Fadeaway) with divine harmonies. Sublime.
After 3 minutes of silence there's a bonus track of Shesmovedon. Not sure why SW remade this track as it doesn't sound too disimilar from the original. Still, no complaints -- sounds good.
And that's about it. Of course, describing music never does it justice. I hope I've not overhyped the album and it'll be interesting to see how I rate the album after I've lived with it for a while. No doubt about it, though, Deadwing is well worth the wait and anticipation.
source:http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187353
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15 Mar 2005 21:00 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Arf, même si je lis, je n'en saurais guère plus vu mon anglais... 
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15 Mar 2005 21:12 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Première constation : un son superbe ! Clair et profond. C'est une balade, décontractée, avec de très belles parties de piano plus vives que le ton général, ce qui rend plus léger la chanson. De jolies mélodies aussi, 'évidentes' mais pas banales, mélancoliques bien sûr. J'aime bien, c'est apaisant, tranquille. Bon signe si l'album est de cette qualité ! 
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15 Mar 2005 21:19 |
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Janéthefuckinjurist
Long Distance Runner
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 17:04 Messages: 3541
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I've got news !!!!
Le dernier Rock Hard vient de paraître, avec trois pages d'interview de Steven Wilson !!!
Et en plus, sur le sampler il y a une chanson tirée de "Deadwing", il s'agit d'une longue pièce typiquement Porcupinienne : "The Start of Something Beautiful" dont les ambiances planantes au clavier me rappellent l'album "Signify". Du tout bon, j'ai pas le temps de développer, mais c'est très sympa !!
Par ailleurs, une première chronique de "Deadwing" en français est disponible ici : http://site.voila.fr/chemicalharvest/index2.htm
Section articles, puis chroniques CDs. Comme celle en anglais elle est plutôt élogieuse. Miam !! 
_________________ "So the choice is often between a well made master that used less than today's best gear or a very poorly made master that was captured accurately by more modern gear." Barry Diament
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16 Mar 2005 13:35 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Rhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ! Signify, le mot magique...
~ fait les pieds aux murs et saute partout ! ~
Viiiiiiiiiiite !!!
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16 Mar 2005 14:12 |
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Joc
Long Distance Runner
Inscription: 17 Mai 2004 11:50 Messages: 3431 Localisation: Paris
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Janéthefuckinjurist a écrit: Et en plus, sur le sampler il y a une chanson tirée de "Deadwing", il s'agit d'une longue pièce typiquement Porcupinienne : "The Start of Something Beautiful" dont les ambiances planantes au clavier me rappellent l'album "Signify". Du tout bon, j'ai pas le temps de développer, mais c'est très sympa !! 
Je connais pas trop PT, mais ce morceau est sympa. Dommage que les effets sur les voix soient aussi insupportables.... C'est toujours comme ça? Dans ce cas, c'est dissuasif en ce qui me concerne....
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16 Mar 2005 14:34 |
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Seosamh
Long Distance Runner
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 13:00 Messages: 3990 Localisation: Limoges
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C'est un peu une chance que je récupère le net après que l'album soit sorti, comme ça, je pourrai le découvrir après achat, (ce qui n'est pas arrivé depuis des lustres) et le surpise sera totale. 
_________________ Tous les gouts sont dans la nature, même ceux de chiottes.
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16 Mar 2005 14:45 |
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Janéthefuckinjurist
Long Distance Runner
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 17:04 Messages: 3541
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Bah moi je ne suis pas choqué par les effets sur la voix...d'ailleurs je les avais à peine remarqués 
_________________ "So the choice is often between a well made master that used less than today's best gear or a very poorly made master that was captured accurately by more modern gear." Barry Diament
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16 Mar 2005 15:31 |
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QueenOfTheReich
Heavy Metal Lawyer
Inscription: 21 Nov 2004 17:12 Messages: 1053 Localisation: A l'ombre des fraisiers en fleurs
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Je voulais attendre d'avoir tout l'album pour commencer à l'écouter...
Mais j'ai craqué. J'ai pris une chanson, au hasard... manque de chance ou l'inverse, c'était Lazarus.
Elle est vraiment magnifique...
je vais jamais avoir la patience d'attendre jusqu'à fin Avril... 
_________________ Lord, I am a bow in your hands. Overdraw me, and who cares if I break!
Nikos Kazantzakis
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17 Mar 2005 18:12 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Juste un petit message pour dire que cet album comble toutes mes attentes, et même plus que cela. PORCUPINE TREE se surpasse, et ma foi c'est réellement très beau. Voilà, rien de plus à ajouter pour l'instant...
Ah si, la pochette, bien belle aussi je trouve :

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17 Mar 2005 23:59 |
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SML66
Heavy Metal Lawyer
Inscription: 14 Mar 2004 13:10 Messages: 1194 Localisation: Dunkerque
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18 Mar 2005 0:47 |
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Hardt
Heavy Metal Lawyer
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 17:04 Messages: 1882 Localisation: Where the Slime Live
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Bouh le contre jour, l'est nul leur photographe 
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18 Mar 2005 7:37 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Huhu... C'est comme qui dirait un peu fait exprès... 
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18 Mar 2005 8:42 |
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SML66
Heavy Metal Lawyer
Inscription: 14 Mar 2004 13:10 Messages: 1194 Localisation: Dunkerque
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Deadwing = Aile morte = Elle morte ?
C'est pour ça qu'on ne la voit pas ?
(explication intellectualo-prog)
Ou alors il s'agit d'une photo d'Edwige (d'où le titre) ?
(explication calembouresque)

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18 Mar 2005 9:33 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Je penche, sans tomber dans le proguisme forcené  , pour la 1ère solution...
Quoique... le passage du Aile Morte à Elle morte me parait bien franchouillard pour des english... 
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18 Mar 2005 9:44 |
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Janéthefuckinjurist
Long Distance Runner
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 17:04 Messages: 3541
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Alors Eric, dis m'en plus s'il-te-plaît !!!
Comparé aux albums précédents, tu le situes où ???
_________________ "So the choice is often between a well made master that used less than today's best gear or a very poorly made master that was captured accurately by more modern gear." Barry Diament
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18 Mar 2005 10:29 |
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The Ancestor Of Metal
Ce mec a floodé, je l'ai vu !
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 8:23 Messages: 10688 Localisation: Val d'Oise (95)
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Au top Jané ! Tout y est plus maîtrisé, plus fin ou plus pêche selon le besoin, plus beau, plus... Tout quoi !  Tu vas te régaler je pense !!!
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18 Mar 2005 10:49 |
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