Inscription: 14 Mar 2004 20:49 Messages: 25655 Localisation: Cambrai
Savatage - pas d'album avant 2007
Et encore avec de la chance j'ai l'impresion, on a posé la question a Caffery, il est très très evasif
Vampire-Magazine.com: An often heard complaint is that there are two CHRIS CAFFERY albums, one DOCTOR BUTCHER re-release and a new album coming up, a JON OLIVA'S PAIN album… Where's the new SAVATAGE?
Chris: "I really don't know! … SAVATAGE will hopefully have something out in 2007… I cannot force this to happen and really have no control over the situation. I will continue to make music for my fans and hopefully pick up some new ones along the way."
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25 Sep 2005 13:23
Bertrand
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chaque année, la sortie de l'album est repoussée d'un an supplémentaire.
C'est à se demander si il va vraiment sortir un jour
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25 Sep 2005 13:40
Rabbitman
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Il va finir par sortir après Chinese Democracy
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25 Sep 2005 13:43
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Inscription: 14 Mar 2004 20:49 Messages: 25655 Localisation: Cambrai
franchement je n'y crois plus guere, l'envie n'a plus l'air d'y etre chez Oliva
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25 Sep 2005 13:43
Caza
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Savatage est mort en 1993.
25 Sep 2005 15:07
Rabbitman
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Comme les Guns en fait ?
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25 Sep 2005 15:19
Bertrand
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Caza a écrit:
Savatage est mort en 1993.
Savatage est surtout mort depuis l'arrivée de Paul O'Neil
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25 Sep 2005 15:21
Ntzaz
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Inscription: 17 Mar 2004 21:20 Messages: 408 Localisation: Metz - Saint Avold - Forbach
Ah ben non vu que Paul O'Neil est arrivé pour Hall of The Mountain King.
En plus j'ai toujours boen aimé les concepts de Paul O'Neil (Wake of Magellan, Poets And Madmen, Beethoven's Last Night notamment.
Par contre on peut quand même garder un petit espoir pour 2007 vu que ce sera l'année des 25 ans du groupe et qu'a priori Jon a prévu de fêter ça.
Mais c'est vrai qu'être obligé de se coltiner des tas de sous-Savatage entre les albums solos de Jon, Caffery et Zak c'est frustrant: à chaque fois c'est pas mal mais il manque un truc (et à chaque fois les meilleures chansons sont celles ou l'un des autres membres du groupe a collaboré (notamment chez Circle 2 Circle)
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25 Sep 2005 16:07
noise
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Inscription: 14 Mar 2004 20:49 Messages: 25655 Localisation: Cambrai
mais un DVD s'annonce enfin!!
Chris Caffery, guitarist for SAVATAGE/TRANS SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA and solo artist, recently spoke to Metal Asylum just before rehearsals started for the TSO tour about his latest CD, "Pins and Needles", and the future of SAVATAGE, among other topics. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:
Metal Asylum: What is the album called and how would you compare it to "Faces"?
Chris: It's called "Pins and Needles", like when your foot falls asleep, and I don't think you can compare the two. It's like when your sitting there and your foot gets numb. It's kinda like sometimes in life you keep taking the same crap and dealing with the same things so much that after a while you become numb to it, ya know?!
There's a focus and maturity with this record. When I recorded "Faces", I had so much material I wrote over the years to go through, I had no idea what people were going to like, I never sang before and basically I was like a kid in a candy shop as far as what I wanted people to hear. Now with "Pins and Needles" there is a set direction and its definitely not what people are expecting. I am very looking forward to people hearing it.
Metal Asylum: Recently some pro shot video footage of SAVATAGE when Criss Oliva was in the band during the "Streets" era, along with footage from your time with the band during the "Wake of Magellan" tour have surfaced online. When it is time to compile footage for a SAVATAGE DVD, will footage of this nature be included?
Chris: Yeah that's the plan. The idea is to make a special compilation DVD with all the videos, classic live footage from when Criss Oliva was still alive and Jon Oliva was still the lead singer, some candid stuff, plus a new live concert with everyone involved who has recorded with SAVATAGE. I know there is one concert from the Dynamo festival with the "Mountain King" lineup that had a pro shoot, actually that week they asked me to re join the band for "Gutter Ballet" was when they were flying over for the show two days later and if I had a chance to rehearse with the band at all in time I would have been part of it too. I have a copy of that show and its about an hour or so and it's the only real pro shot footage that includes Criss Oliva at all.
Metal Asylum: Can you predict the possible future of SAVATAGE and who will be involved in the band?
Chris: Well, I really could not tell you exactly. I know we are going to do something for the anniversary. Maybe we will do one big huge concert, record an album including all the past and present members of the band, maybe a big European festival tour. If we do a special concert tour it will include SAVATAGE's original drummer Wacholz playing the older music and probably include Alex Skolnick doing some stuff. It's just a matter of everyone getting on the same page, ya know. I'm up for anything. I think the fans want to see more than one show, I know I do.
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10 Oct 2006 6:09
hellion
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Inscription: 16 Nov 2005 14:13 Messages: 487 Localisation: Sainté
Ca serait bon ca, un vrai gros double bien rempli a la "fur immer" de doro.
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10 Oct 2006 8:47
noise
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Ouais je sais le titre fait marrer mais y a peut être de l'espoir
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Producer/composer Paul O'Neill, who co-founded TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA with SAVATAGE mastermind Jon Oliva, told TheNewsStar.com that he and Oliva are working on a Broadway musical called "Gutter Ballet" (also the name of the second record O'Neill did with SAVATAGE) that they hope to get to the stage in the next two years. It's the culmination of a work that O'Neill began in the 1970s. Many of the songs have already had rock versions recorded by SAVATAGE, but will return to their roots for the Broadway show.
"We want to take it back to the original blues, gospel, Motown sound," he said. "For SAVATAGE, you've got to metal it up. Jon and I are kind of psyched to be doing it because Broadway is something we've always wanted to take on."
According to O'Neill, there are also some SAVATAGE projects in the offering, including a best-of compilation, a re-release of the band's last record, "Poets and Madmen", on Atlantic, and possibly a new album.
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25 Déc 2009 18:42
ZiGGy
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Pour rester sur le message de noise, si c'est fait serieusement et pas des gens compétents, des versions "soft" des morceaux les plus broadwaysques de Savatage... ça me tenterai bien. En plus il a dit Motown !
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25 Déc 2009 18:56
chèvre
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j'igonre si cela verra réellement le jour, mais j'aime quand on me fait miroiter des trucs pareils. de toutes façons on me marque 'gutter ballet' sur n'importe quel spectacle, je prends...
mais ces gus ont le sens du spectacle, ça ne peut être que bien.
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25 Déc 2009 21:37
noise
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Un petit best of en attendant
MUSIC/Edel Records has set a March 2 European release date for "Still The Orchestra Plays: Greatest Hits Vol. 1 & 2", the official anthology from the legendary U.S. metal act SAVATAGE. The collection contains remastered classics plus three new, previously unreleased acoustic recordings. The limited edition of the anthology comes with the complete "Japan Live" show from 1994, which appears here for the first time on DVD.
"Still The Orchestra Plays" will be followed by the re-release of SAVATAGE's complete catalog — remastered and featuring bonus tracks as well as newly recorded audio commentary.
01. Power Of The Night 02. Hall Of The Mountain King 03. 24 Hours Ago 04. Legions 05. Gutter Ballet 06. Summers Rain 07. When The Crowds Are Gone 08. Ghost In The Ruins 09. If I Go Away 10. NYC Don't Mean Nothing 11. Edge Of Thorns 12. All That I Bleed
CD2: Greatest Hits Vol.2:
01. Handful Of Rain 02. Chance 03. One Child 04. I Am 05. Anymore 06. Hourglass 07. The Wake Of Magellan 08. Morphine Child
Bonus tracks (recorded by Jon Oliva in 2009):
09. Anymore (acoustic) 10. Not What You See (acoustic) 11. Out On The Streets (acoustic)
DVD - "Japan Live 94":
01. Taunting Cobras 02. Edge Of Thorns 03. Chance 04. Conversation Piece 05. Nothing Going On 06. He Carves His Stone 07. Jesus Saves 08. Watching You Fall 09. Castles Burning 10. All That I Bleed 11. Stare Into The Sun 12. Damien 13. Handful Of Rain 14. Sirens 15. Gutter Ballet 16. Hall Of The Mountain King
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11 Jan 2010 9:03
Caza
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Un best of de Savatage sans Believe ?
11 Jan 2010 9:10
ZiGGy
Skeleton In The Forum
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 23:51 Messages: 5370 Localisation: Saint Ganton
Il n'y a que le dvd qui m'intéresse... depuis le temps que je l'attend. Mais je suppose qu'ils sont foutu de ne pas l'éditer indépendamment du bestof (toute pourrite la tracklist).
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11 Jan 2010 12:20
Heavy REM
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Caza a écrit:
Un best of de Savatage sans Believe ?
Il y a "When the crowds are gone", comme il y a un passage identique ("I never wanted to know, Never wanted to see, I wasted my time, Till time wasted me…"), fallait choisir je pense.
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11 Jan 2010 13:22
Muscu
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Inscription: 29 Mai 2004 22:27 Messages: 4420 Localisation: Paris
Comme Ziggy, c'est surtout le dvd qui m'intéresse. J'espère d'ailleurs que la qualité est bonne. Y'en a qu'ont déjà vu ce concert ?
Inscription: 15 Mar 2004 23:51 Messages: 5370 Localisation: Saint Ganton
Ouep, excellent concert en formation réduite, pas mal filmé pour les normes de l'époque.
J'ai mis Sirens parce que j'aime bien cette version mais il y en a d'autres sur youtube... Suffit de voir Handful of Rain par exemple, pour voir la forme de Stevens et Skolnik.
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